• Move to 64bit os and door

    From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Nightfox on Sat Nov 15 15:39:09 2025
    NIGHTFOX (21:1/137) wrote to klunk <=-

    I eventually decided to move my BBS to a 64-bit Linux distro. 16-bit
    DOS doors run decently well with dosemu or dosemu2 (at least with Synchronet).

    Not all of us are technologically adept, thats what keeps us slaves to the
    windows plantation.

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  • From Accession@21:1/700 to Utopian Galt on Sun Nov 16 07:04:00 2025
    Hey Utopian Galt!

    On Fri, Nov 15 2025 17:39:09 -0600, you wrote:

    Not all of us are technologically adept, thats what keeps us slaves
    to the windows plantation.

    It's not necessarily about being technologically adept. You don't need
    any more tech know-how to do anything on some of these Linux
    distributions these days than you do Windows.

    The issue is more than likely that you have been so used to running
    Windows over the course of 3-4 decades now, whereas you may have never
    once took the time to even look at Linux. So it's probably more about
    the fear of leaving your own comfort zone, than it is being some kind of 'Linux technogeek', or whatever you want to /think/ you need to be.

    By all means, if you like Windows, stick with it. If you don't want to
    be a "slave to the Windows plantation," use something like Virtualbox
    and install and tinker with a Linux distro where you can't do any harm
    to any of your cherished data. If you break something in said VM, you
    can just delete it, create a new one, and start over.

    Just /using/ it is how you learn it. Just like you did with Windows all
    that time ago. Even when a new version of Windows comes out, you have to
    use it, and over time you figure out how all the new stuff works. Linux
    is the exact same thing.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to All on Sun Nov 16 08:48:22 2025
    On 16 Nov 2025, Accession said the following...

    It's not necessarily about being technologically adept. You don't need any more tech know-how to do anything on some of these Linux distributions these days than you do Windows.

    The issue is more than likely that you have been so used to running Windows over the course of 3-4 decades now, whereas you may have never once took the time to even look at Linux. So it's probably more about
    the fear of leaving your own comfort zone, than it is being some kind of 'Linux technogeek', or whatever you want to /think/ you need to be.


    Nick is completely right. I ran under Windows for 3 decades, starting out at Win 3.11 for Workgroups and moving through all versions. About 4 years ago I played with running a BBS in Ubuntu, and after the learning curve of using Terminal to do the basic things. I never turned back, I now only have 2 WIndows VM's running, 1 to run my Amiga Emulation since I haven't yet been able to get a Amiga Emulator as full featured and up to date as WinUAE (Although this will be changing with WinBoat) and a Win 10 32 bit to run my Door Server, although this too will more than likely change when I finally spend some time learning DosEmu.. Fire up a VM of Mint (closest to Windows in my opinion) and play with it, in my case moving to Debian made me want to use my computers again..


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  • From Accession@21:1/700 to Bucko on Sun Nov 16 08:07:51 2025
    Hey Bucko!

    On Sat, Nov 16 2025 07:48:22 -0600, you wrote:

    On 16 Nov 2025, Accession said the following... Ac> Ac> It's not
    necessarily about being technologically adept. You don't need Ac>
    any more tech know-how to do anything on some of these Linux Ac> distributions these days than you do Windows. Ac> Ac> The issue is
    more than likely that you have been so used to running Ac> Windows
    over the course of 3-4 decades now, whereas you may have never Ac>
    once took the time to even look at Linux. So it's probably more
    about Ac> the fear of leaving your own comfort zone, than it is
    being some kind of Ac> 'Linux technogeek', or whatever you want to /
    think/ you need to be.

    Sorry for going way off topic here, but may I ask what you used to quote
    that? Was my original text messed up that bad that it would have quoted
    it like that? Or was that something on your end (as I doubt a Mystic
    internal editor would do something like that). It's possible it's just
    the way it's displaying on my side, too. *shrug*

    We could move this portion over to FSX_TST if you wish, I'm just messing
    about in my Thunderbird about:config settings with format=flowed and
    some quoting stuff trying to iron out some of these quirks I'm noticing
    on my end. If I'm creating an issue that I'm not seeing, I'd like to
    know about it so I can undo it! ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Utopian Galt on Sun Nov 16 13:47:02 2025
    Re: Move to 64bit os and door
    By: Utopian Galt to Nightfox on Sat Nov 15 2025 03:39 pm

    NIGHTFOX (21:1/137) wrote to klunk <=-

    I eventually decided to move my BBS to a 64-bit Linux distro. 16-bit DOS
    doors run decently well with dosemu or dosemu2 (at least with
    Synchronet).

    Not all of us are technologically adept, thats what keeps us slaves to the windows plantation.

    You still have to be technically adept to do things in Windows.. I imagine anyone running a BBS is probably technically adept enough for this type of thing, no matter what OS they're running their BBS in.. :)

    Nightfox
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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Accession on Mon Nov 17 20:08:54 2025
    On 16 Nov 2025, Accession said the following...

    Hey Bucko!

    Sorry for going way off topic here, but may I ask what you used to quote that? Was my original text messed up that bad that it would have quoted
    it like that? Or was that something on your end (as I doubt a Mystic internal editor would do something like that). It's possible it's just
    the way it's displaying on my side, too. *shrug*

    We could move this portion over to FSX_TST if you wish, I'm just messing about in my Thunderbird about:config settings with format=flowed and
    some quoting stuff trying to iron out some of these quirks I'm noticing
    on my end. If I'm creating an issue that I'm not seeing, I'd like to
    know about it so I can undo it! ;)

    Regards,
    Nick


    Hey Nick, actually, inside the Mystic editor and looking at my original response it is all correct here. LOL It's possible Thunderbird is playing with the carriage returns.. No biggie though..

    No harm done...


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  • From Accession@21:1/700 to Bucko on Mon Nov 17 20:39:59 2025
    Hey Bucko!

    On Mon, Nov 17 2025 19:08:54 -0600, you wrote:

    Sorry for going way off topic here, but may I ask what you used to
    quote that? Was my original text messed up that bad that it would
    have quoted it like that? Or was that something on your end (as I
    doubt a Mystic internal editor would do something like that). It's
    possible it's just the way it's displaying on my side, too. *shrug*

    Hey Nick, actually, inside the Mystic editor and looking at my
    original response it is all correct here. LOL It's possible
    Thunderbird is playing with the carriage returns.. No biggie though..

    I agree. It looks fine everywhere else I look, too. I've messed with the config editor far too much in Thunderbird to figure out what specific option I changed that is messing things up. It's about time to revert back to defaults, at least things that I've changed regarding quoting and wrapping anyway.

    No harm done...

    I know. I just don't like when things aren't doing what I want them to do. Thanks for the reply. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Accession on Tue Nov 18 07:25:45 2025

    Hey Bucko!

    I agree. It looks fine everywhere else I look, too. I've messed with the config editor far too much in Thunderbird to figure out what specific option I changed that is messing things up. It's about time to revert
    back to defaults, at least things that I've changed regarding quoting
    and wrapping anyway.


    I'm the same way! I want things a certain way, when they aren't I sit there and try to figure out what I did! Eventually, settings go back to default. LOL


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  • From Accession@21:1/700 to Bucko on Tue Nov 18 11:04:41 2025
    Hey Bucko!

    On Mon, Nov 18 2025 06:25:45 -0600, you wrote:

    I'm the same way! I want things a certain way, when they aren't I
    sit there and try to figure out what I did! Eventually, settings go
    back to default. LOL

    I'm fairly certain I know which setting I was trying at the time, and it apparently wasn't doing what I thought it would. I've since reverted that change, so things should be back to normal. If not, I'll have to take more drastic measures. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm, because beating people up is illegal.
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