• MBBSEMU...

    From Shurato@21:2/148 to All on Fri Dec 19 14:08:00 2025
    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine? telnet door tells me that rlogin connections aren't being accepted if I try to connect from any ip other than the one running it. I've got my firewall forwarding the ports, I've got the windows firewall accepting public and private for mbbsemu.exe
    and the ports inbound. I absolutely can't figure this out. I tried discord, but it's totally inaccessible. I have an account and can't find the server unless I use the link on the mbbsemu page, which causes me to create an
    account that I already have... I really don't like discord. I can never
    find the channel or server that I need. Hopefully someone on here can
    help...

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Shurato on Fri Dec 19 17:33:56 2025
    Shurato wrote to All <=-

    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine?

    "Connect to the server"... What server?


    telnet door
    tells me that rlogin connections aren't being accepted if I try to
    connect from any ip other than the one running it. I've got my
    firewall forwarding the ports, I've got the windows firewall accepting public and private for mbbsemu.exe and the ports inbound. I absolutely can't figure this out.

    Neither could anyone else, with that given information (only).

    I tried discord, but it's totally inaccessible.
    I have an account and can't find the server unless I use the link on
    the mbbsemu page, which causes me to create an account that I already have... I really don't like discord. I can never find the channel or server that I need.

    Well that sucks, but not BBS-related, not sure what you'd like anybody
    to do about that. I recommend not using Discord.

    Hopefully someone on here can help...

    Not sure what you need help with.



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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Gamgee on Fri Dec 19 17:46:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to All <=-

    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine?

    "Connect to the server"... What server?

    the rlogin mbbsemu serer.

    telnet door tells me that rlogin connections aren't being accepted
    if I try to connect from any ip other than the one running it. I've
    got my firewall forwarding the ports, I've got the windows firewall

    accepting
    public and private for mbbsemu.exe and the ports inbound. I
    absolutely
    can't figure this out.

    Neither could anyone else, with that given information (only).

    I tried discord, but it's totally inaccessible. I have an account
    and can't find the server unless I use the link on the mbbsemu
    page, which causes me to create an account that I already have...
    I really don't like discord. I can never find the channel
    or
    server that I need.

    Well that sucks, but not BBS-related, not sure what you'd like anybody
    to do about that. I recommend not using Discord.

    Yeah, I try not to, but am usually told to.

    Hopefully someone on here can help...

    Not sure what you need help with.

    Connecting to the rlogin server externally.


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Shurato on Fri Dec 19 19:50:28 2025
    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Shurato wrote to All <=-

    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine?

    "Connect to the server"... What server?

    the rlogin mbbsemu serer.

    All right, I'll just give up then.

    <SNIP>




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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Gamgee on Fri Dec 19 19:41:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Shurato wrote to All <=-

    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine?

    "Connect to the server"... What server?

    the rlogin mbbsemu serer.

    All right, I'll just give up then.


    How does that not answer your question? You run mbbsemu with commands and it answers connection attempts from rlogin clients. If I try to connect to that server from outside the machine it is running on, it refuses to connect. If
    I try to connect internally, it works fine.




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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Shurato on Sat Dec 20 00:53:15 2025
    On 19 Dec 25 19:41:00, Shurato said the following to Gamgee:

    How does that not answer your question? You run mbbsemu with commands and i answers connection attempts from rlogin clients. If I try to connect to tha server from outside the machine it is running on, it refuses to connect. If

    When you say you try to remotely connect and it refuses, you mean the connection is refused outright, or it times out or what?

    Is it your firewall or ISP? Are you connecting from an outside ISP that even allows Rlogin?

    Is it even really necessary? Whats wrong with just normal Telnet? My board and many others have sat on port 23 for years. Not too many BBS callers going out of their way to use Rlogin... Isn't that just a supercoolhacker Linux thing?

    Those are my questions at the moment...

    Atreyu

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Shurato on Sat Dec 20 08:06:36 2025
    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-


    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Shurato wrote to All <=-

    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine?

    "Connect to the server"... What server?

    the rlogin mbbsemu serer.

    All right, I'll just give up then.


    How does that not answer your question? You run mbbsemu with commands
    and it answers connection attempts from rlogin clients.

    Well, ... what's the server's address/port? You didn't say. I never
    heard of something called "mbbsemu", either.

    If I try to
    connect to that server from outside the machine it is running on, it refuses to connect. If I try to connect internally, it works fine.

    This makes it VERY clear that it's an "open port" problem. Either the (unknown to anyone but you) port that the rlogin server is running on is
    not open, or there is something (firewall) in the way, blocking it.
    Based on what you've said above, it can't be ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.

    So that's what needs to be looked at to solve this problem.


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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Atreyu on Sat Dec 20 15:18:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Atreyu said:

    On 19 Dec 25 19:41:00, Shurato said the following to Gamgee:

    How does that not answer your question? You run mbbsemu with commands
    and i
    answers connection attempts from rlogin clients. If I try to connect
    to tha
    server from outside the machine it is running on, it refuses to
    connect. If

    When you say you try to remotely connect and it refuses, you mean the connection is refused outright, or it times out or what?

    I simply get a message from telnetdoor that the connection was refused.

    Is it your firewall or ISP? Are you connecting from an outside ISP that
    even allows Rlogin?

    I'm connecting from an external machine, internal to the network.

    Is it even really necessary? Whats wrong with just normal Telnet? My board and many others have sat on port 23 for years. Not too many BBS
    callers going out of their way to use Rlogin... Isn't that just a supercoolhacker Linux thing?

    rlogin allows me to access the doors directly, like a game server with no
    need for a user to login. This is accessing from my BBS machine to another machine on my network.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Gamgee on Sat Dec 20 15:20:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-


    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Shurato wrote to All <=-

    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine?

    "Connect to the server"... What server?

    the rlogin mbbsemu serer.

    All right, I'll just give up then.


    How does that not answer your question? You run mbbsemu with
    commands
    and it answers connection attempts from rlogin clients.

    Well, ... what's the server's address/port? You didn't say. I never
    heard of something called "mbbsemu", either.

    mbbsemu is a way for sysops to run majorbbs doors on their bbs's. It's not available externally, only on my network and not even that, only from that
    one machine.

    If I try to connect to that server from outside the machine it is running on, it refuses to connect. If I try to connect internally,
    it works fine.

    This makes it VERY clear that it's an "open port" problem. Either the (unknown to anyone but you) port that the rlogin server is running on is
    not open, or there is something (firewall) in the way, blocking it.
    Based on what you've said above, it can't be ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.

    I'm allowing mbbsemu.exe to the private and public network. I'm allowing the ports inbound; I've already mentioned that.

    So that's what needs to be looked at to solve this problem.

    And I've looked at that. I'm trying to see if anyone else has gotten this to work.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Shurato on Sat Dec 20 17:07:40 2025
    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-


    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-


    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Shurato wrote to All <=-

    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine?

    "Connect to the server"... What server?

    the rlogin mbbsemu serer.

    All right, I'll just give up then.


    How does that not answer your question? You run mbbsemu with
    commands
    and it answers connection attempts from rlogin clients.

    Well, ... what's the server's address/port? You didn't say. I never
    heard of something called "mbbsemu", either.

    mbbsemu is a way for sysops to run majorbbs doors on their bbs's. It's not available externally, only on my network and not even that, only
    from that one machine.

    Okay...... So can you see how a person cannot follow what you're
    talking about? Would *ANYONE* other than a MajorBBS sysop know any of
    that? Nope.

    You're also asking about Synchronet functionality (rlogin game server),
    but when I checked your BBS it isn't even Synchronet. Are you starting
    to see how this might be confusing, and you don't give ANY details to
    help anyone understand?


    If I try to connect to that server from outside the machine it is running on, it refuses to connect. If I try to connect internally,
    it works fine.

    This makes it VERY clear that it's an "open port" problem. Either the (unknown to anyone but you) port that the rlogin server is running on is
    not open, or there is something (firewall) in the way, blocking it.
    Based on what you've said above, it can't be ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.

    I'm allowing mbbsemu.exe to the private and public network. I'm
    allowing the ports inbound; I've already mentioned that.

    You absolutely are *NOT* allowing it inbound, or it would be working.

    So that's what needs to be looked at to solve this problem.

    And I've looked at that. I'm trying to see if anyone else has gotten
    this to work.

    Many dozens of people have gotten this to work.

    Please see above regarding it being an inbound port problem. It seems
    crystal clear to me.

    I'll really give up now, as you don't seem to actually want to solve the problem and I'm tired of this game. Good luck.



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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Gamgee on Sat Dec 20 17:49:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-


    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-


    * In a message originally to Shurato, Gamgee said:

    Shurato wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Shurato wrote to All <=-

    Can anyone connect to the server from an external machine?

    "Connect to the server"... What server?

    the rlogin mbbsemu serer.

    All right, I'll just give up then.


    How does that not answer your question? You run mbbsemu with
    commands
    and it answers connection attempts from rlogin clients.

    Well, ... what's the server's address/port? You didn't say. I never heard of something called "mbbsemu", either.

    mbbsemu is a way for sysops to run majorbbs doors on their bbs's.
    It's
    not available externally, only on my network and not even that, only from that one machine.

    Okay...... So can you see how a person cannot follow what you're
    talking about? Would *ANYONE* other than a MajorBBS sysop know any of
    that? Nope.

    You're also asking about Synchronet functionality (rlogin game server),
    but when I checked your BBS it isn't even Synchronet. Are you starting
    to see how this might be confusing, and you don't give ANY details to
    help anyone understand?


    If I try to connect to that server from outside the machine it is running on, it refuses to connect. If I try to connect internally, i works fine.

    This makes it VERY clear that it's an "open port" problem. Either the (unknown to anyone but you) port that the rlogin server is running on
    is
    not open, or there is something (firewall) in the way, blocking it.
    Based on what you've said above, it can't be ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.

    I'm allowing mbbsemu.exe to the private and public network. I'm allowing the ports inbound; I've already mentioned that.

    You absolutely are *NOT* allowing it inbound, or it would be working.

    So that's what needs to be looked at to solve this problem.

    And I've looked at that. I'm trying to see if anyone else has gotten this to work.

    Many dozens of people have gotten this to work.

    Please see above regarding it being an inbound port problem. It seems crystal clear to me.

    I know, but it could also be server related. That's why I need to know if anyone has this specific setup working. Since you don't, I was never asking you for help.

    I'll really give up now, as you don't seem to actually want to solve the problem and I'm tired of this game. Good luck.


    Does anyone have mbbsemu set up on one system, with their bbs on another and still be able to connect? Through the internal network. My OPNSense
    firewall shouldn't be involved. Windows could be, but I've got rules for the app (public and private) and the ports inbound (6513-6518). I can only
    connect internally if it's from and to IP address specified in the config
    (eg. 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.8). I can't connect from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.8 even if the config has that IP specified. I'm not responding to Gamgee, I'm responding to the thread. So, please quit taking this
    personally.

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Shurato on Sun Dec 21 09:30:00 2025
    Hey Shurato!

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 17:49:00 , you wrote:

    I know, but it could also be server related. That's why I need to know
    if anyone has this specific setup working. Since you don't, I was never asking you for help.

    I'm willing to bet nobody has the exact same setup as you.

    Does anyone have mbbsemu set up on one system, with their bbs on another
    and still be able to connect? Through the internal network. My
    OPNSense firewall shouldn't be involved. Windows could be, but I've got rules for the app (public and private) and the ports inbound
    (6513-6518). I can only connect internally if it's from and to IP
    address specified in the config (eg. 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.8). I can't connect from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.8 even if the config has that IP specified. I'm not responding to Gamgee, I'm responding to the thread.
    So, please quit taking this personally.

    No. I don't have any of this setup, but to me what it sounds like is that you probably shouldn't be using '127.0.0.1' or '192.168.0.8' in your configuration at all, as those are local addresses inside of your LAN.

    I don't know what the config looks like, but you should probably be using something like '0.0.0.0' for IPv4, or "::" for IPv6. Again, I'm not sure what your config looks like, but maybe even leaving those options blank would do the trick, at least better than using local IP addresses.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From maskreet@21:1/114 to Shurato on Sun Dec 21 10:50:49 2025
    On 20 Dec 2025, Shurato said the following...

    Does anyone have mbbsemu set up on one system, with their bbs on another and still be able to connect? Through the internal network. My OPNSense firewall shouldn't be involved. Windows could be, but I've got rules
    for the app (public and private) and the ports inbound (6513-6518). I
    can only connect internally if it's from and to IP address specified in the config (eg. 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.8). I can't connect from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.8 even if the config has that IP specified.
    I'm not responding to Gamgee, I'm responding to the thread. So, please quit taking this personally.

    The Rlogin.RemoteIP line is the IP you want to accept connections FROM. So you wouldn't use the local IP of the machine it's hosted on, which is what I'm assuming is 192.168.0.8 is, unless you only wanted connections from that IP, which is why I think you're only getting connections accepted from that machine as near as I can tell from what you're trying to say. I dunno, it's a little hard to parse it all. I'd have to go through this thread again just to see if that's what you're saying.

    Just in case you don't already know, if you make a change to the appsettings.json file for the IP line you'd need to restart MBBSEmu for changes to take effect. I know that's obvious, but I see a lot of people that don't know you generally need to restart a program after making changes to a settings file.

    I've got it working no problem for DoorParty. I have it running in a different VM than DoorParty on a separate IP with the Rlogin.RemoteIP line set to the DoorParty VM's IP, and it works fine. No firewall rules or anything needed adjusting.

    Lemme go through the thread again and I'll edit this message before sending it out just to make sure.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Accession on Sun Dec 21 17:36:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Accession said:

    Hey Shurato!

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 17:49:00 , you wrote:

    I know, but it could also be server related. That's why I need to know if anyone has this specific setup working. Since you don't, I was
    never
    asking you for help.

    I'm willing to bet nobody has the exact same setup as you.

    Does anyone have mbbsemu set up on one system, with their bbs on
    another
    and still be able to connect? Through the internal network. My
    OPNSense firewall shouldn't be involved. Windows could be, but I've
    got
    rules for the app (public and private) and the ports inbound
    (6513-6518). I can only connect internally if it's from and to IP address specified in the config (eg. 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.8). I
    can't
    connect from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.8 even if the config has that IP specified. I'm not responding to Gamgee, I'm responding to the thread. So, please quit taking this personally.

    No. I don't have any of this setup, but to me what it sounds like is that you probably shouldn't be using '127.0.0.1' or '192.168.0.8' in your configuration at all, as those are local addresses inside of your LAN.

    I don't know what the config looks like, but you should probably be using something like '0.0.0.0' for IPv4, or "::" for IPv6. Again, I'm not sure what your config looks like, but maybe even leaving those options blank would do the trick, at least better than using local IP addresses.

    I've tried 0.0.0.0, that doesn't seem to have been accounted for by the developers. I can't imagine they didn't consider their server wouldn't be accessed from the outside... Thanks for trying. I moved it back to the bbs system for now.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to maskreet on Sun Dec 21 17:37:00 2025

    * In a message originally to Shurato, maskreet said:

    On 20 Dec 2025, Shurato said the following...

    Does anyone have mbbsemu set up on one system, with their bbs on
    another
    and still be able to connect? Through the internal network. My
    OPNSense
    firewall shouldn't be involved. Windows could be, but I've got rules for the app (public and private) and the ports inbound (6513-6518).
    I
    can only connect internally if it's from and to IP address specified
    in
    the config (eg. 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.0.8). I can't connect from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.8 even if the config has that IP specified.

    I'm not responding to Gamgee, I'm responding to the thread. So,
    please
    quit taking this personally.

    The Rlogin.RemoteIP line is the IP you want to accept connections FROM. So you wouldn't use the local IP of the machine it's hosted on, which is what I'm assuming is 192.168.0.8 is, unless you only wanted connections from
    that IP, which is why I think you're only getting connections accepted
    from that machine as near as I can tell from what you're trying to say. I dunno, it's a little hard to parse it all. I'd have to go through this thread again just to see if that's what you're saying.

    Thanks! I can fix that!

    Just in case you don't already know, if you make a change to the appsettings.json file for the IP line you'd need to restart MBBSEmu for changes to take effect. I know that's obvious, but I see a lot of people that don't know you generally need to restart a program after making
    changes to a settings file.

    I've got it working no problem for DoorParty. I have it running in a different VM than DoorParty on a separate IP with the Rlogin.RemoteIP line set to the DoorParty VM's IP, and it works fine. No firewall rules or anything needed adjusting.

    Lemme go through the thread again and I'll edit this message before
    sending it out just to make sure.

    Yep, you nailed it!

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