• Maduro's regime is down

    From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to All on Sat Jan 3 07:21:16 2026
    I have to admit, if Putin's regime will be taken down - I will forgive Trump.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to All on Sat Jan 3 07:56:11 2026
    Alex Galiyev wrote to All <=-

    I have to admit, if Putin's regime will be taken down - I will forgive Trump.

    You know Trump is doing good when even the Left Wing Propaganga Bots stop complaining.


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  • From Pablo Gener@4:900/102 to Ron L. on Sat Jan 3 15:10:55 2026
    USA had no excuse to invade Venezuela and capture their president.
    Venezuela's government has no involvment at all in any drug cartel business. It's utter bullshit that the government of Venezuela had anything to do with drug disstribution.
    The USA just goes around the world doing whatever the fuck they want with
    their dicks out, taunting anyone knowing that no other nation has the military power to oppose them. The USA is the fucking bully of the world.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alex Galiyev on Sat Jan 3 12:14:28 2026
    I have to admit, if Putin's regime will be taken down - I will forgive Trump.

    What good would it do? There are other elites in Russia who will fill his shoes.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Jan 3 12:17:42 2026
    I have to admit, if Putin's regime will be taken down - I will forgiv Trump.

    You know Trump is doing good when even the Left Wing Propaganga Bots stop complaining.

    No, that's just how it looks today because this was a surprise move. The left wasn't prepared for this, so they don't know how to react.

    By Monday, David Muir will be crying over this "injustice." (And Joseph and all the other parrots too.)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Pablo Gener on Sat Jan 3 12:22:40 2026
    USA had no excuse to invade Venezuela and capture their president. Venezuela's government has no involvment at all in any drug cartel

    If so, then why didn't they do anything to stop it? Didn't Maduro care that boats from his country were being blown up? He didn't do anything to stop it after the 1st vessel was blown up, and he didn't do anything about it after the 35th vessel was blown up. Connect the dots.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alex Galiyev on Sat Jan 3 14:32:22 2026
    On 03 Jan 2026, Alex Galiyev said the following...


    I have to admit, if Putin's regime will be taken down - I will forgive Trump.


    You will be held to account.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Jan 3 14:32:54 2026
    On 03 Jan 2026, Ron L. said the following...


    You know Trump is doing good when even the Left Wing Propaganga Bots stop complaining.



    HAHAHA...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Pablo Gener on Sat Jan 3 14:40:50 2026
    On 03 Jan 2026, Pablo Gener said the following...


    USA had no excuse to invade Venezuela and capture their president. Venezuela's government has no involvment at all in any drug cartel business. It's utter bullshit that the government of Venezuela had anything to do with drug disstribution.


    There is a court case coming.

    Nicolas Maduro will be in court on Monday in New York City... He was indicted by a Grand Jury.

    Wait for the facts...

    You sound like Hunter Biden did every time Trump blew up the drug boats.

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Pablo Gener on Sun Jan 4 07:06:53 2026
    Hello Pablo!

    Saturday January 03 2026 15:10, you wrote to Ron L.:

    USA had no excuse to invade Venezuela and capture their president.
    Since the international law doesn't work anymore, when Russia can simply invade Ukraine, so can WE.
    Sorry, Putin opened Pandora's box. Try to stop us now.

    Alex

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alex Galiyev on Sun Jan 4 15:33:18 2026
    On 04 Jan 2026, Alex Galiyev said the following...


    Since the international law doesn't work anymore, when Russia can simply invade Ukraine, so can WE.
    Sorry, Putin opened Pandora's box. Try to stop us now.


    Alex go to the Doctors because you have a memory problem...

    Since WWII there has never been a Congressional act of war... Since 1941.

    The US fought in Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, Iraq & Afghanistan. These are some of the things I can think of off hand. There were others... Grenada is an other...

    We also have Bidem killed Ayman al-Zawahiri without congressional approval. Hillary and Barry Killed Muammar Gaddafi, no congressional approval. Barry also killed Osama bin Laden without congressional approval.

    Trillions spent millions and millions dead without Congress approving any of this for over 80 years now.

    Look it up...

    Maduro is a known Narco-Terrorist as per Biden, Trump, The DOJ and on and on.

    In 2022 a warrant was issued for Maduro for his arrest... Biden put a bounty of 25 Million on him, Trump raised it to 50 Million.

    Trump started blowing up boats filled with Drugs and seizing oil tankers.

    He told Maduro repeatedly that he should leave and he chose not to.

    Alex... Here is something real important... The FBI along with the Intelligence Community and the Department of War served Maduro the warrant for his arrest. <---- Let that sink in... They served his warrant and arrested him with a warrant from 2022.

    We are being told that Maduro's VP worked with Trump to oust him out.

    The VP was sworn into office and has since offered to open up the country to the US to assist it getting back on its feet.

    1/3 of the country fled because how Maduro ran the country. There are large centers of Venezuelans in the US and Canada all of them celebrating his capture.

    The FBI, with support, went in with a WARRANT. Went to a specific place spent the minimal time needed top exercise the warrant and they left.

    Nothing invaded, no need to tell congress. If I heard things correctly Marco said they only need to notify after the fact.

    The law from the 1970s that limits the president's ability to commit U.S. forces to an armed conflict without congressional consent is the War Powers Resolution of 1973 (also known as the War Powers Act)

    This resolution stipulates that the President must:

    Notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing U.S. Armed Forces into hostilities.

    Withdraw the forces from hostilities within 60 days unless Congress has declared war or passed specific legislation authorizing the action.

    This 60-day period can be extended by an additional 30 days for the safe withdrawal of troops, if necessary.


    Interesting eh!!! The President, ANY, can enter a country for 60 days and that 60 days can be increased by 30, so 90 days, without congress.

    The President, ANY, has to NOTIFY Congress after 48 Hours.

    Trump went in and 48 MINUTES later he was out.

    Alex, lay off the weed.

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to IB Joe on Mon Jan 5 01:36:29 2026
    Hello IB!

    Sunday January 04 2026 15:33, you wrote to me:

    Since WWII there has never been a Congressional act of war... Since
    1941.
    God, you're sick.

    Alex

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alex Galiyev on Mon Jan 5 12:13:14 2026
    On 05 Jan 2026, Alex Galiyev said the following...


    Sunday January 04 2026 15:33, you wrote to me:

    Since WWII there has never been a Congressional act of war... Since 1941.
    God, you're sick.


    Alex, sorry it's true. Congress has not voted to give ANY President since WWII the Congressional Approval to go to war since Pearl Harbor.

    This is fact.

    Please post me a link on evidence that that has happened...

    BTW, Bill Barr Trump's old AG, was on the news this talking about how he got the indictments in NY just before he left in 2020. This was a standard indictment from a Grand Jury.

    Bill talked about the similarities between the Venezuela Dad (VD) and that of Manuel Antonio Noriega or the Panama Dad (PD). If you don't recall the US Military went to Panama and arrested PD and brought him back to stand trial.

    He served 17 years of a 40 year conviction. He was later extradited back to Panama to face charges there and from France.

    He later died in Panama shortly after leaving the US.

    4 Navy SEALS died trying to extract him.

    Bill said... It doesn't matter how the US got VD to court.

    VD might claim he has immunity because he thinks he's the President or Venezuela. The world has evidence he isn't.

    Meanwhile... The people of Venezuela are celebrating his capture.


    And my last point...

    The Civil War was fought without Congressional Approval... The Supreme Court chimed in and Abe went and fought a good fight to free slaves.

    Like I said... Google it and you'll find out I said nothing incorrect.

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  • From Pablo Gener@4:900/102 to IB Joe on Thu Jan 8 01:16:14 2026
    On 04 Jan 2026, IB Joe said the following...

    On 04 Jan 2026, Alex Galiyev said the following...


    Since the international law doesn't work anymore, when Russia can sim invade Ukraine, so can WE.
    Sorry, Putin opened Pandora's box. Try to stop us now.


    Maduro is a known Narco-Terrorist as per Biden, Trump, The DOJ and on
    and on.

    In 2022 a warrant was issued for Maduro for his arrest... Biden put a bounty of 25 Million on him, Trump raised it to 50 Million.

    Trump started blowing up boats filled with Drugs and seizing oil tankers.

    He told Maduro repeatedly that he should leave and he chose not to.


    The US justice system already published a statement declaring THERE IS NO PROOF whatsoever that the Government of Venezuela or Maduro had ANYTHING to do with drug business.
    There's NO PROOF those boats had drugs. The oil tankers Trumpp STOLE had NO drugs.
    He (Trump) told Maduro repeatedly that he should leave. Who THE FUCK is Trump to tell any president from any other country that they should leave??

    I say again: The US had no FUCKING reason to invade another country, bomb installations and kill people, and sequester their president.
    A million years of apologies wouldn't do.

    Never forget: The US are imperialistic bastards that go around the world with their dicks out thinking anyone should either suck it or die.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Pablo Gener on Thu Jan 8 12:19:42 2026
    On 08 Jan 2026, Pablo Gener said the following...


    The US justice system already published a statement declaring THERE IS
    NO PROOF whatsoever that the Government of Venezuela or Maduro had ANYTHING to do with drug business.
    There's NO PROOF those boats had drugs. The oil tankers Trumpp STOLE had NO drugs.
    He (Trump) told Maduro repeatedly that he should leave. Who THE FUCK is Trump to tell any president from any other country that they should leave??


    Can you post a link to that... Bill Barr Presented evidence to a Grand Jury and the warrants for came from that 5 years ago.

    BTW, Trump wasn't looking for Drugs, as per trump, on the tankers he's confiscating... He's tightening the noose and removing funding from a narco terrorist.


    I say again: The US had no FUCKING reason to invade another country, bomb installations and kill people, and sequester their president.
    A million years of apologies wouldn't do.


    Its easy... if you want to be a narco terrorist just don't do it in the west.


    I know that Trump is doing things right because the people from Venezuela are celebrating it and the Democrats hate it.


    Never forget: The US are imperialistic bastards that go around the world with their dicks out thinking anyone should either suck it or die.


    That's your choice then.

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  • From Pablo Gener@4:900/102 to IB Joe on Thu Jan 8 19:16:20 2026
    On 08 Jan 2026, IB Joe said the following...

    On 08 Jan 2026, Pablo Gener said the following...

    Can you post a link to that... Bill Barr Presented evidence to a Grand Jury and the warrants for came from that 5 years ago.


    https://www.courthousenews.com/trumps-shifting-case-against-maduro-from-drug- trafficking-to-oil/

    I'm on PuTTY and am having a hard time pasting a link, I had to type that up, and on two sepparate lines... I'd ask you to be so kind as to paste one line right after the other in the web browsers address box.

    Also, on the same note: you only seem to demand links so as to not admit being wrong until evidence is presented leaving you no margin for a reasonable doubt.

    You should go out and find truth on your own, not cross your arms and perch until truth itself comes biting at your feet.

    I'll say it a millionn times: there's no reason to justify the president of one country (any country, wehre the US is *just* another country, not better not worse than any other), to kidnap the president of another country.

    Some people in Venezuela are celebrating Maduro's fall, but that's not *all* venezuelans, that shoudl be sorted out through an election, not by the US dropping by, killing a bunch of people, bombing up a couple of places and taking out the president themselves.
    Who the F**K named Trump the sheriff of the world?

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Pablo Gener on Fri Jan 9 16:10:16 2026
    On 08 Jan 2026, Pablo Gener said the following...


    I'll say it a millionn times: there's no reason to justify the president of one country (any country, wehre the US is *just* another country, not better not worse than any other), to kidnap the president of another country.



    It's hard to communicate sometimes through sending message...

    Let it be known I love debate and hearing ideas.

    I have wrote a lot in the past few days... and I'll try to thread the needle here again.

    Someone said that Trump entering Venezuela and kidnapping V.D. was a bad Precedent... He needed Congressional approval.

    I mentioned, a fact and provable, that any President since entering the second World War has not asked Congress for approval.

    Google it... I don't agree with it being done... BUT it is a fact.

    Do I wish the US never got involved in the Korean conflict... I don't think they should have gotten involved.

    Do I wish the US never got involved in Vietnam... Absolutely NOT... ~50K Americans died and millions of others died and harmed... and they walked away without winning.

    They went into Granada without Congressional approval... Same Shit different day.

    They went into Afghanistan, I was OK with at the beginning (911) and not so much latter... The US playing Wack-A-Mole in the Middle East, NOT GOOD. And then Joe Biden pulls out like he did... Not cool!!!

    The list goes on and on and on with Presidents not seeking Congressional approval... do I agree with it... NO... but facts are facts.

    George W was able to do some of the things he did by naming things terrorist... <--- NOW that is a precedent... I didn't mind that initially to get Bin Ladin... But didn't agree with it when he started playing Wack-A-Mole with it. All the elites wanting to spread democracy in the Middle East like they value the things we do.

    So, in comes Trump... Over 100K people die from Fentanyl and drug overdoses. He did what George W did... Declared the Drug Cartels Narco Terrorist and went to work for the people.

    Blowing up drug boats and stopping a Narco terrorist group from profiting off their oil reserves.

    Trump said that China and Russia are in Venezuela... There was a video of someone from there confirming this.

    There is an old Doctrine called the Monroe Doctrine, look it up, Trump has adopted this Doctrine and it has since been renamed to the Donroe Doctrine.

    Trump has has said that he doesn't want any of the US adversaries in the West. Kind of makes sense. Russia can influence Europe, China can influence Asia...

    I'm a wait and see guy... makes sense.

    Today Venezuela has a chance to be free. TODAY the current leaders of Venezuela release all the Political Prisoners (In the News Today). Venezuelan Dad will see his day in court and things might work out for those people.

    As an aside... Cuba is on the brink of collapse because of Trump. During the Venezuelan Dad's arrest there were 40 people who died... 34 were Cuban. Apparently V.D. gave Cuba, I heard, 100K barrels of oil each month in exchange for security and intel.

    Daddy Trump is blocking those oil shipments and as a result the Cuban government is in crisis and will probably fall sometime this year. This is good news for the Cubans...

    Things are progressing and I have a wait to see attitude. I don't like wars and conflicts, am I right who knows. I had 2 grandparents fight in WWII... is what it is... I am a dual citizen Canadian and American... in the US there isn't anyone I know who hasn't been affected by these Presidents starting conflicts. Its everywhere... I could go to lunch and a wounded vet could come in missing limbs... I don't like it but it is what it is.

    If Trump came out tomorrow and said the US was pulling out of NATO... I'd be all in. We'd be off the hook for all the endless wars and lives destroyed. Y'all can fight your own wars and we'll fight ares.

    These are my opinions, I'm aloud to have them here in the west. I may not be right and I don't care. I may move on them at some point if I hear something more convincing.

    Russia and Ukraine is nothing more than a money laundering scheme where the West pays for most of it and not the actors in the area where the conflict is.

    Trump wants to end that conflict, if he can, and he wants to see peace.

    I think you, and I could be wrong, attach negative motives to Trump's efforts in doing so.

    Maybe that better clarifies my position.

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  • From Pablo Gener@4:900/102 to IB Joe on Sat Jan 10 15:21:01 2026
    You keep on assuming things because you BELIEVE what you're told. Outside the "west" (US/Canada), from SOUTH America (also named "america"...), things look terribly different.

    On 09 Jan 2026, IB Joe said the following...
    So, in comes Trump... Over 100K people die from Fentanyl and drug overdoses. He did what George W did... Declared the Drug Cartels Narco Terrorist and went to work for the people.
    The Government of Venezuela *is not* a durg cartel.

    Blowing up drug boats and stopping a Narco terrorist group
    I say again: the *Government of Venezuela* *IS NOOOT...* a narco terrorist group. Why would the US go into Venezuelan sovereign waters and blow up a
    boat that's supposedly carrying drugs? Why don't they let the Venezuelan
    state handle taht? Why don't they wait for the venezuelan drug boats 200miles into their own sovereign waters and blow them up there? Don't you ask
    yourself these things?
    IJ> from profiting off their oil reserves.
    About profiting from oil reserves, it's the State of Venezuela that's
    profiting off oil reserves, not a drug cartel. And that's what's supposed to happen with natural resources and sovereign states. Why *the hell* would the
    US steal away tanker ships carrying the profit that should go to the state of the country that exported those resources??
    IJ>
    IJ> Trump said that China and Russia are in Venezuela... There was a video of
    IJ> someone from there confirming this.
    I don't understand, what's wrong about three countries doing business
    together? As long as those business are lawful and beneficial to each of the parties involved, why should the US bother? Does the whole world *have to*
    ask Washington who to do deals with?
    IJ>

    IJ> There is an old Doctrine called the Monroe Doctrine, look it up,
    I know the Monroe Doctrine, I read about it long before Trump was president.
    It said something along the lines of "America for the Americans", and it proposed that whenever a sovereign state within the subcontinent was attacked by an out-of-continent force, the US would intervene and *always* side with
    the neighbour under attack. Well guess what: I know first hand how much of an ass-wipe the US has made of that same doctrine, when it is an old friend that attacks the neighbour. I happen to be from Argentina, that was declared war upon by England in 1982 and attacked argentine armed forces fighting to
    regain control of a territory that was stolen from us 150 years earlier. Who did the US side with back then? If you can't guess it, I'll spell it for you: England.
    IJ> Trump has adopted this Doctrine and it has since been renamed to
    IJ> the Donroe Doctrine.
    It "hasn't been" renamed... it was Trump himself that did that, and
    apperantly because he's a huge ego-maniac, going through a phase of slapping his own name on anything he can close enough... Come on, Joe, you're a smart guy, but I'm smart too, we both know it wasn't that "is has been renamed"... have some care with how things are expressed...
    IJ>
    IJ> Trump has has said that he doesn't want any of the US adversaries in the
    IJ> West. Kind of makes sense. Russia can influence Europe, China can
    IJ> influence Asia...
    These are things *any* president can *SAY*, but to go as far as to cross
    other countries borders and do shit there... what gives you the right?!?!

    IJ>
    IJ> I'm a wait and see guy... makes sense.
    IJ>
    IJ> Today Venezuela has a chance to be free. TODAY the current leaders of
    IJ> Venezuela release all the Political Prisoners (In the News Today). Venezuela is not "more free" because of US invasion and political
    intervention. What about having Maduro be their president? Are they free to have that? What if Venezuela goes through an election, and have Maduro in the ballots, and say... hey... Maduro fucking won by a lot the election, can they have the guy be president? Who *the fuck* is the US!!!! as a country!!!!! to tell another country who they can have or have not as president??? Even Trump going as far as telling Machado that if she'd given him the Nobel Prize, the
    US would have had her assume as president, can you grasp how mad and bogus
    all of this is?? Do you think latin american countries have no history? no
    law? no institutions? no states? no way to conduct themselves?? It's injury over the insult, and every minute it keeps building up.
    IJ> Venezuelan Dad will see his day in court and things might work out for
    IJ> those people.
    IJ>

    As an aside... Cuba is on the brink of collapse because of Trump.
    During the Venezuelan Dad's arrest there were 40 people who died...
    The didn't "die", they were *shot dead* by the invading troops that had no right to be there in the first place, *because!!* those cubans and venezuelan security officers stood in the way between the invaders and Maduro and his wife. They fought and have *their lives* to defend the Constitution of Venezuela.

    34 were Cuban. Apparently V.D. gave Cuba, I heard, 100K barrels of oil each month in exchange for security and intel.
    Again, why *the hell* is the US have to have anything to say with the
    business two sovereign countries do between each other?
    IJ>
    IJ> Daddy Trump is blocking those oil shipments and as a result the Cuban
    IJ> government is in crisis and will probably fall sometime this year. This
    IJ> is good news for the Cubans...
    IJ>
    How can the US messing around with your sovereign commercial decisions be good for the people of your country? Why does the US have to intervene with another countries commercial sovereign decisions to do any good for the people of that country? Why can't the US offer a *better* deal than the ones they're doing with other countries the US doesn't like?

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Pablo Gener on Sun Jan 11 08:13:54 2026
    On 10 Jan 2026, Pablo Gener said the following...


    You keep on assuming things because you BELIEVE what you're told.
    Outside the "west" (US/Canada), from SOUTH America (also named "america"...), things look terribly different.


    Great news!!!!

    In the US court system V.D. and V.M. will be able to discus how they ended up in a N.Y.C. court room. V.D. can claim that he was kidnapped and he's the legitimate Dictator/President of the Sovereign Nation of Venezuela.

    He can claim that he has NO IDEA why over 8 million people fled his country causing the WORST humanitarian crisis in human history, re: the Dictator part to his title, and that he is NOT a involved in drug trafficking and that he's just misunderstood.

    Whereas the federal DA will talk about the evidence behind the warrant secured back in 2020. The Feds will talk about the $25,000,000.00 bounty that Joe Biden put on V.D.'s head, and that was increased to $50,000,000.00 from Papi Trump.

    The Federal DA might talk about how the arrest of V.D. was a national security issue and talk about the evidence behind that.

    The Judge who is in a hostile area for the Trump administration will look at that and site laws and case law as to whether the case can proceed.

    The Judge can through the case out, because the facts and laws say so... Or the case proceeds and the facts will be presented to a Jury and they'll decide.

    I support the Venezuelans fighting for their freedom. I support the Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado who exposed the corruption in the 2024 election in Venezuela and was recognized with a Nobel Peace Prize in doing so.

    I say F**K China, and Chinada. F**K Russia, Iran and any other country that doesn't support their countrymen.

    Pablo <--- a good Irish name... You should support the people who are fighting for thier lives to LIVE/EXIST and be free.

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    * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)