Hello everybody!

I have, besides Fidonet, Micronet and a few others. I am finding that the echos are being added to the Fidonet group and not their own

Sean


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Hi Sean,

On 2025-11-20 14:58:40, you wrote to All:

I have, besides Fidonet, Micronet and a few others. I am finding that
the echos are being added to the Fidonet group and not their own

You mean when using the 'addnew' function of ftools?

That's a documented feature ;-) :

"""
6.11 Addnew

Automatically add new areas detected during FMail Toss to the
FMAIL.AR. FMail will use the default settings defined in the <---
AreaMgr defaults section of FConfig. A name for JAM areas is
generated automatically.

ÿ FTools Addnew [-A]

[-A] AutoExport external config files
See paragraph 3.5.2 for which files this relates to,
and how to configure them.
"""

And you have to realize a Group is not the same as a network. Groups are used for giving users access to a number of areas that are part of a group.
I have multiple groups for Fidonet areas. Local, Regional, European, and Worldwide areas are in different groups.

And FMail has no knowledge which group is used for which network.

Personally I don't use the automatic Addnew function of ftools. There are hardly ever any new areas in the networks I'm connected to, and when they arrive I want to handle them manually.


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred!

20 Nov 25 17:36, you wrote to me:

I have, besides Fidonet, Micronet and a few others. I am finding
that the echos are being added to the Fidonet group and not their
own

You mean when using the 'addnew' function of ftools?

That's a documented feature ;-) :

"""
6.11 Addnew

Add ok. I will work around it :)

Personally I don't use the automatic Addnew function of ftools. There
are hardly ever any new areas in the networks I'm connected to, and
when they arrive I want to handle them manually.

OK, I will try to add all. Will be a pain to migrate a lot of users over, but is doable

Sean


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Hi Sean,

On 2025-11-20 17:10:38, you wrote to me:

Personally I don't use the automatic Addnew function of ftools. There
are hardly ever any new areas in the networks I'm connected to, and
when they arrive I want to handle them manually.

OK, I will try to add all. Will be a pain to migrate a lot of users over, but
is doable

There are the import functions for other softwares configuration files in fconfig!

And if you know your way with Python, I have some rudimentary python code that can read and write the fmail.ar file (with the areas configuration). And import and export to json format... Maybe that could be of help?

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred!

20 Nov 25 18:23, you wrote to me:

There are the import functions for other softwares configuration files
in fconfig!

And if you know your way with Python, I have some rudimentary python
code that can read and write the fmail.ar file (with the areas configuration). And import and export to json format... Maybe that
could be of help?

It will more than be manual as I use BBBS. I am currently porting some of my rss to echo scripts over. First one was a sucess. The plan is in time, to move to binkd and have it already done so no change for links

Sean


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Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Sean Rima <=-

Personally I don't use the automatic Addnew function of ftools. There are hardly ever any new areas in the networks I'm connected to, and when they arrive I want to handle them manually.

I tried turning off addnew and I think it is so much better using fconfig. Thanks for the tip.

I accidently deleted the echo on the setup so went to the bbbs to send this

Sean

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