• bitcoin blackmail

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 10:04:25 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Mon Nov 24 2025 01:04 pm

    I can't count anymore how many emails of this kind i have gotten =) The best defence is using your brain.

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Mon Nov 24 21:26:00 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 10:04:25

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Thats what you get for giving all your data to google ;)

    Beside proton i am with GMX.net for email and their SpamFilter is okish. The problem that i have, the filter often overrules my whitelist entries. So even if i say a certain sender should always be accepted as valid, emails from this sender are still filtered out sometimes.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 13:47:56 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to Nightfox on Mon Nov 24 2025 09:26 pm

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that
    can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this
    anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check
    my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Thats what you get for giving all your data to google ;)

    I'm not sure what you mean..? You make spam filtering sound like a negative. The auto spam filter means I don't have to spend my own time looking at spam emails and deleting them, and I don't know how that would be a negative..

    Nightfox

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Nightfox on Tue Nov 25 00:23:00 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 13:47:56

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that
    can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this
    anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check
    my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Thats what you get for giving all your data to google ;)

    I'm not sure what you mean..? You make spam filtering sound like a negative. The auto spam filter means I don't have to spend my own time looking at spam emails and deleting them, and I don't know how that would be a negative..

    Just saying, google can develop very effective tools (spam filters) cause it has full access to millions of emails. i like efective spam filters! just pointing out that google can access a huge dataset to train their filters and that makes it potentially very effective.

    It is the same with google maps. when you use it in your car as a route planner, you act as a live google sensor. Its a give and take. You just have to be aware of it, that you pay with your data at free and paid google services.

    Its all good and no issue if you don't mind sharing all your data =)
    I do use google maps also and other google services, but where possible i try to slowly degoogle the services i use.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 16:44:55 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to Nightfox on Tue Nov 25 2025 12:23 am

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that
    can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this
    anymore, as they go directly to spam. But sometimes I do need to check
    my spam in case it mistakenly flagged a real email.

    Thats what you get for giving all your data to google ;)

    I'm not sure what you mean..? You make spam filtering sound like a
    negative. The auto spam filter means I don't have to spend my own time
    looking at spam emails and deleting them, and I don't know how that would
    be a negative..

    Just saying, google can develop very effective tools (spam filters) cause it has full access to millions of emails. i like efective spam filters! just pointing out that google can access a huge dataset to train their filters and that makes it potentially very effective.

    Its all good and no issue if you don't mind sharing all your data =) I do

    True, though I've hoped it's only trained on the emails that people have marked as spam, rather than using all your data. :)

    It is the same with google maps. when you use it in your car as a route planner, you act as a live google sensor. Its a give and take. You just have to be aware of it, that you pay with your data at free and paid google services.

    Yeah, I normally have my phone's location setting turned off, as I'd just rather not have any people or apps tracking where I am, and generally I don't feel a need to do that. I only turn it on when I actually need to - Sometimes I do use Google Maps for directions, especially when I'm walking somewhere. In my car, often I like to use my car stereo's built-in GPS maps app, as I feel like that's more convenient. My car stereo does support Android Auto (and Apple Car Play), but it's not wireless for that; I have to plug my phone into my car via USB to use its maps app on my car stereo (and I don't have a phone holder in my car).

    Nightfox

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 04:06:26 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 10:04 am

    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mindsurfer to MRO on Mon Nov 24 2025 01:04 pm

    I can't count anymore how many emails of this kind i have gotten =) The best defence is using your brain.

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore,

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base. Fuck Google. After 20+ years of gmail, I guess I need to start using my Proton address...

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Bf2k+ on Wed Nov 26 05:57:41 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06 am

    decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base. Fuck Google. Af 20+ years of gmail, I guess I need to start using my Proton address...

    Screw Internet email as whole! Anyone I want to contact by email I can reach via BBSes ;).

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 08:04:18 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 10:04 am

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore,

    I am an email service administrator and end users rarely get these either on my systems. It is not like Google has a monopoly on smap filtering. I still get to read a lot of spam that is sent to quarantine and it is a source for giggles.

    Some of these motherfuckers are actually quite good, on the other hand. Carpet bombing like wank-blackmail is lame, but some targetted attacks are impressive these days.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 08:07:04 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Nightfox to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 24 2025 04:44 pm


    True, though I've hoped it's only trained on the emails that people have marked as spam, rather than using all your data. :)


    You can bet their filtering goes throughout all of your data.

    Heck, my own spam filters get trained on both data marked as spam and on good data.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Bf2k+ on Wed Nov 26 09:40:47 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06 am

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base. Fuck Google. After 20+ years of gmail, I guess I need to start using my Proton address...

    I'd heard about things Google may be doing to collect data. I should probably get serious about trying other email services, and I may try Proton..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Wed Nov 26 09:41:26 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 08:04 am

    One thing about Gmail is that it has a sort of smart email filter that can
    detect spam. Most of the time, I don't even see emails like this anymore,

    I am an email service administrator and end users rarely get these either on my systems. It is not like Google has a monopoly on smap filtering. I still get to read a lot of spam that is sent to quarantine and it is a source for giggles.

    Yeah, I didn't say Google was the only one. I just meant Google's seems to work fairly well.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Bf2k+ on Wed Nov 26 14:45:06 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06:26

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base.

    Can you be more specific? I've used Gmail for at least 20 years and have been nothing but satisfied with it's performance. I've experienced nothing that would imply Google's doing anything nefarious.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Mortar on Thu Nov 27 10:01:31 2025
    Mortar wrote to Bf2k+ <=-

    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Bf2k+ to Nightfox on Wed Nov 26 2025 04:06:26

    I also like this... but had to turn it off the other day since GMail has decided to impose their AI experiments on their user base.

    Can you be more specific? I've used Gmail for at least 20 years and
    have been nothing but satisfied with it's performance. I've
    experienced nothing that would imply Google's doing anything nefarious.

    MalwareBytes ran an article that Gmail users were opted-in to Gemini
    training, but it appears that it was poorly worded. You're opting in to
    mail scanning for "smart features", including auto-complete. Seeing as
    they're bsing accused in a lawsuit for doing that exact thing, uit's
    easy to see the confusion.

    https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2025/11/gmail-is-reading-your-emails-and-attachments-to-train-its-ai-unless-you-turn-it-off


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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Mortar on Fri Nov 28 00:00:29 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mortar to Bf2k+ on Wed Nov 26 2025 02:45 pm

    nothing but satisfied with it's performance. I've experienced nothing that would imply Google's doing anything nefarious.

    You didn't experience the removal of the "Don't be evil" rule?

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Mortar on Fri Nov 28 06:50:56 2025
    Re: bitcoin blackmail
    By: Mortar to Bf2k+ on Wed Nov 26 2025 02:45 pm

    Can you be more specific? I've used Gmail for at least 20 years and have been nothing but satisfied with it's performance. I've experienced nothing that would imply Google's doing anything nefarious.

    Using customer emails to train it's AI engine...

    It has been reported in several places (like Newsweek) and of course Google is denying it.

    So I guess it depends on who you want to believe. Me? I don't trust anyone these days...

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