Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Eddie Wilson to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 10 2025 01:34 pm

Re: Re: Good to be back
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Toadster on Sat Mar 01 2025 06:50 am

Toadster wrote to Bogomips <=-

So yeah, I'm off Facebook, I'm off Twitter, or X or whatever it is n I'm off Instagram; you name it, I'm off it. And I don't think I've e gone ON TikTok.

I think TikTok is the only social media I can trust these days. It's an odd world we live in.

I only use Facebook Messenger to communicate with family. I have never actua used Facebook app. I used the web page to set up my account so I could use Messenger. I hear of people wasting a lot of time on those social sites. I l the BBS scene and it works for me until my time is up.
Eddie,
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About the same here Eddie. The social media has become one big commercial. Elmer
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Eddie Wilson to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 10 2025 01:34 pm

About the same here Eddie. The social media has become one big commercial. Elmer
telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23

I see a lot of weird AI images and videos on YOUTUBE. I tried to get back into it but had to leave it alone again. The short videos are hard to understand for me anyways. I hope you are doing well.

Rixter
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Elmer Quinn to Eddie Wilson on Thu Oct 23 2025 06:47:04

I hear of people wasting a lot of time on those social sites.

You do realize that BBSes are just another form of social media, right?

As for wasting time, that's subjective. I spend a few hours a day on Facebook and I'm enjoying myself. I also hang out on this BBS quite a bit and a stand-alone forum for the Commander X16. I don't play the fanboy game.

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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Mortar to Eddie Wilson on Sat Oct 25 2025 10:54 am

Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Elmer Quinn to Eddie Wilson on Thu Oct 23 2025 06:47:04

I hear of people wasting a lot of time on those social sites.

You do realize that BBSes are just another form of social media,
right?

As for wasting time, that's subjective. I spend a few hours a day
on Facebook and I'm enjoying myself. I also hang out on this BBS
quite a bit and a stand-alone forum for the Commander X16. I don't
play the fanboy game.

everytime is wasting time if you're not making money.
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Mortar to Eddie Wilson on Sat Oct 25 2025 10:54:11

I hear of people wasting a lot of time on those social sites.

You do realize that BBSes are just another form of social media, right?

Yes, but there are several differences. On a BBS, for example, you are a lot less likely to have to wade through a bunch of advertisements for things that don't interest you, or a bunch of AI generated "content," or a lot of clickbait.

The quality of conversation, so long as you stay out of the politics echoes, isalso usually better.
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Dumas Walker to Mortar on Sun Oct 26 2025 08:18 am

On a BBS, for example, you are a lot
less likely to have to wade through

What if you disable the message bases
entirely, leaving just files and doors?
Does that still make the BBS "social
media"?

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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: phigan to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 26 2025 12:11 pm

What if you disable the message bases
entirely, leaving just files and doors?
Does that still make the BBS "social
media"?

Some door games are multi-player, and perhaps that could still be considered a form of social media. Facebook has games like Candy Crush, etc..

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Dumas Walker to Mortar on Sun Oct 26 2025 08:18 am

You do realize that BBSes are just another form of social media,
right?

Yes, but there are several differences. On a BBS, for example,
you are a lot less likely to have to wade through a bunch of
advertisements for things that don't interest you, or a bunch of AI generated "content," or a lot of clickbait.

if you have a good adblocker, even on your phone, you wont see ads.

people are people. and the lack of an abundance of people is what has always hurt bbsing since after the 3rd wave. bbses are about people. imagine how much other services on the web would suck if just the operators talked to other operators.
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: phigan to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 26 2025 12:11:32

What if you disable the message bases entirely, leaving just files and doors > Does that still make the BBS "social media"?

I guess that depends on who is defining it. If the users are able to play eachother in the doors, they are doing something social, for example.
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 26 2025 16:59:21

if you have a good adblocker, even on your phone, you wont see ads.

I question that on sites like FB, though, where the "ads" in question appear as"posts."
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Yes, but there are several differences. On a BBS, for example,
you are a lot less likely to have to wade through a bunch of advertisements for things that don't interest you, or a bunch
of AI generated "content," or a lot of clickbait.

The quality of conversation, so long as you stay out of the
politics echoes, isalso usually better. ---

Well said. I'll have to add this to the bulletin "The Hidden
Treasures Of A BBS".

Daryl

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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Oct 27 2025 08:13 am

Re: Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 26 2025 16:59:21

if you have a good adblocker, even on your phone, you wont see ads.

I question that on sites like FB, though, where the "ads" in question
appear as"posts."

i dont see what you're talking about.
do you use any adblocker?
i have fbpurity but dont really use fb that much anymore period.
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Yes, but there are several differences. On a BBS, for example, you are a lot less likely to have to wade through a bunch of advertisements for things that don't interest you, or a bunch of AI generated "content," or
a lot of clickbait.

Yes, and members of the community are rather honestly interested in discussions that are meaningful and sharing thoughts rather than self-promotion and me me me first, and only.

There exceptions but still by far statistically speaking BBSes excel over Web 2.0 social networks in quality of the conversation and value per minute!

Here we engage each other like in the old times, not that we're engaged by algorithms and product design to scroll mindlessly and consume ads.

Of course that's the extension of your answer Dumas, not response to yours.

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What if you disable the message bases
entirely, leaving just files and doors?
Does that still make the BBS "social
media"?

social media not. but social network yes. As still through gaming you can socialize with others very well.
If you narrowed that only to files though. That would be only content distribution with least social aspect of it, unless some form of discussion emerges from it. Then we come back to point number one.

I really like to highlight to many that social media and social networks are two different things, just evolved from each other.
Do you remember when all the social media sites were called social networking sites? It was then when they worked more towards connecting communities this way or another.

Then the business model turned them to media, which is about content consumption and social part of it is only related to the possibility to interact with the content (primarily ads. That makes social MEDIA more some fucked up mutation of TV, RADIO and Newspapers than any place I'd call a community development spot.

That's where BBSes even IRC... even Discord... or Mastodon are more about social NETWORKS than Media.
There are better or worse options for social NETWORKING.. but all social MEDIA are just exploiting us today with little value.

If I want TV I have paid streaming.. if I want radio... I actually still use radio. If I want music I actually digitalize music and create my own digital platform to consume (Spotify is another SOCIAL MEDIA place that I disregard personally). If I want news and articles then I actually came back to paper but digitalized as PDF distribution and read on tablets. Online portals are also more SOCIAL MEDIA with the bad connotation than added value these days (see click bait argument raised somewhere near already).

I find fighting with Web 2.0/Social Media legitimate even if Web as we know it died. But I love the idea that internet is a place that can help us all socially network at global scale.

I think federated/distributed and community owned nodes that represent the platform is better than centralized and I think that's why many of us are here.. many of us test Matrix or Mastodon... for the same reason..

I think many of us are fed up with centralized, corporate and ad infested platform to share ideas and discuss them together. even just consuming..


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if you have a good adblocker, even on your phone, you wont see ads.

That sorts many issues, yes. But I see that ad-infested engagement way further than simple ads to be blocked today.
Clickbait articles, AI generated content (FB, Reddit, dev.to). AI generated groups on FB.clearly pushed to your eyes by the algorithm.

this is eternal fight for both sides that will never end.

-h1

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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: hollowone to Dumas Walker on Tue Oct 28 2025 04:06:00

Of course that's the extension of your answer Dumas, not response to yours.

And a good extension at that. Thanks! ;)
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: hollowone to MRO on Tue Oct 28 2025 04:18 am

if you have a good adblocker, even on your phone, you wont see ads.

That sorts many issues, yes. But I see that ad-infested engagement
way further than simple ads to be blocked today. Clickbait articles,
AI generated content (FB, Reddit, dev.to). AI generated groups
on FB.clearly pushed to your eyes by the algorithm.

this is eternal fight for both sides that will never end.

i dont really see that much of that stuff. i dont consider it invasive if there's one ad on a page. i just dont want it fucking up my experience.
they have to pay the bills. think about how expensive it is to run a service for millions of people.
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: phigan to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 26 2025 12:11:32

What if you disable the message bases entirely, leaving just files and doors? Does that still make the BBS "social media"?

Not entirely, if the doors includes multi-player games.

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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 26 2025 04:59 pm

people are people. and the lack of an abundance of people is what has always hurt bbsing since after the 3rd wave. bbses are about people. imagine how much other services on the web would suck if just the operators talked to other operators.

operators are people too. :-)
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Nov 06 2025 10:38 am

people are people. and the lack of an abundance of people is what
has always hurt bbsing since after the 3rd wave. bbses are about
people. imagine how much other services on the web would suck if
just the operators talked to other operators.

operators are people too. :-)

nope!
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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to hollowone on Wed Oct 29 2025 12:36 am

i dont really see that much of that stuff. i dont consider it invasive if there's one ad on a page. i just dont want it fucking up my experience. they have to pay the bills. think about how expensive it is to run a service for millions of people.
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Well, now there is not an ad on the page. There are lots of ads, and the articles and videos are being made less interesting and more tailored to generate visits than to provide any value to the audience. Lots of videos are pure clickbait "You won't believe what happened when I did X!" and obviously when you check what happened, it was something utterly boring (and shame on anybody who falls for it).

The issue is they have realized that ad-revenue is a dead end in the long term so they are trying to make the expeirence so misserable you end up paying for premium. Then, once you paid for premium, they start shoving ads up your ass anyway.

They can fuck off. Adblockers all the way to the top.


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Re: Re: Good to be back
By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Nov 10 2025 06:13 am

Re: Re: Good to be back
By: MRO to hollowone on Wed Oct 29 2025 12:36 am

i dont really see that much of that stuff. i dont consider it
invasive if there's one ad on a page. i just dont want it fucking
up my experience. they have to pay the bills. think about how
expensive it is to run a service for millions of people.
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Well, now there is not an ad on the page. There are lots of
ads, and the articles and videos are being made less
interesting and more tailored to generate visits than to
provide any value to the audience. Lots of videos are pure
clickbait "You won't believe what happened when I did X!"
and obviously when you check what happened, it was something

yeah i just use adblockers and it doesnt bother me.
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