Re: Re: California budget def
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Nov 25 2025 10:10 am

No, actually I have been told by multiple jobless folks over the years that they don't want those jobs. There was one that hung around in FIDO
POLITICS (and maybe still does) that likes to complain about illegals taking jobs, but also about how his government assistance isn't enough. When I pointed out that they were hiring fruit pickers in the SE US to replace the ones that were deported, and suggested he could get a job like that, he didn't like that suggestion. He seemed offended that I would suggest it.

Here in Spain the trend seems to be that people does not want to take jobs they are overqualified for. Say you have a STEM degree and you end up jobless for whatever reason... people here tends not to pick a random manual job even to hold it temporarily.

But the sword cuts both ways. When I was out of college I spent a couple of months trying to get an entry-level job matching my degree. That didn't work out so I started applying for lower level labor. It didn't work because people is just not hiring overqualified workers out of IT fields... you apply to a positions in sales for a construction prefabs company, they see a degree in Structures Engineering, and you are automatically out because they are looking for somebody with vocational studies at most.

Meanwhile there is a single North African dude with no studies earning OK money for irrigating most of the fields in my village. I don't know if he is doing it because no Spanish native applied, but I am sure if I had tried to get it I would have been kicked out unless I had been dishonest.


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Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-

Yes, but in the cases I am refering to, the last sentence there would disqualify those Americans... they don't want to do any type of
"hard work" because it is somehow beneath their long-unemployed
arses.

people still do hard work. look at roofers. look at the trades.
foundries are hard work.

Don't know about the roofers where you live, but all the ones that actually get on the roofs and do the hard work here are latino.

Same here. Where I live, with hurricanes, we see our share of roofers.
Every single one is a Spanish-speaking Latino of some kind. I have no illusions about nearly all of their immigration status, and I don't
really care. They fill a huge need in our society and community.




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people still do hard work. look at roofers. look at the trades.
foundries are hard work.

Don't know about the roofers where you live, but all the ones that actually get on the roofs and do the hard work here are latino.

Same here. Where I live, with hurricanes, we see our share of roofers.
Every single one is a Spanish-speaking Latino of some kind. I have no illusions about nearly all of their immigration status, and I don't
really care. They fill a huge need in our society and community.

It has got to the point here where if I was having a roof put on and the
guys doing the work were not latino, I would be concerned. ;)


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